tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8121143914762345890.post6317960601971445216..comments2023-10-18T10:11:50.053-05:00Comments on The North Star: the one that should've been a post: don imus & snoopThe North Starhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11220463321465182294noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8121143914762345890.post-63263428628206782492007-04-19T13:59:00.000-05:002007-04-19T13:59:00.000-05:00That was beautifully put. I totally agree. I am gl...That was beautifully put. I totally agree. I am glad you started with that amazing Snoop quote and then went on to mention the origins of hip hop and its being reclaimed by the likes of DP, Roots, and so forth. I don't justify misogyny in commericalized rap but I see Snoop's quote as a necessary defense against mainstream white media trying to distract, because of their own discomfort, from the issue - divide and conquer style. Anyhow, you're analogy about the media latching onto Arab feminist issues is fucking dead on. <BR/>Hip hop is a global phenomenon - I think most Americans are ignorant of that. And if bourgeois white America knew that, they might get scared.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8121143914762345890.post-76382871067746171802007-04-18T22:44:00.000-05:002007-04-18T22:44:00.000-05:00thanks, trying. consider my experience when i say,...thanks, trying. <BR/><BR/>consider my experience when i say, "this __ ish is racist" and many of my white peers say..."no it isn't it, you're paranoid. you're using the race card". well, maybe if i break it down in intellectual terms, these peers can say 1. hey, there goes an articulate negro! 2. there's a historical/intellectual point of origin for what they're speaking about which makes it hard for me to refute black consciousness as just reactionary.<BR/>thanks for your thoughts though - they're mad helpful. and holla at your taking afam/gender classes. keep on.Elizabethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08712404568928487439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8121143914762345890.post-64905442735881269842007-04-18T11:33:00.000-05:002007-04-18T11:33:00.000-05:00Hey Trying,Sorry that the discourse can get jargon...Hey Trying,<BR/><BR/>Sorry that the discourse can get jargon heavy sometimes. Def challenge us to write pieces on terms or phrases because I think that would be extremely helpful for everyone. For instance, I think we need to examine 'essentialism.' We're not really using it in the wrong way, but I think we might not understand the gravity of our points regarding it and how essentializing a body might be different than an object or an ideal.<BR/><BR/>Also, ask us on the comment threads to write about something you want to hear (unless you want to write it yourself!). That might make a difference too.<BR/><BR/>Lastly, I think Elizabeth's main question in this piece is asking how long can we be silent before we realize this black underground of ideal accountability does not exist in today's world. Therefore, we need to develop a strategy to address all problems even if a white audience is watching our every move. Inaction due to white fear will cost us more than negative press by the media. If I butchered that EstV, let me know.Joshuahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17938875004056523434noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8121143914762345890.post-22114168482065345472007-04-18T08:42:00.000-05:002007-04-18T08:42:00.000-05:00"several questions which i'd like to debate:if one..."several questions which i'd like to debate:<BR/>if one ought to take care and consider the nature of media representations when discussing internal injustice, how does one proceed to create interior justice if not in the public sphere, if not in bringing to light these cultural internalizations of systemic oppression? where is this so-called private, black-only sphere where black identity can heal itself from colonial assumptions of heteronormativity?"<BR/><BR/>Ok, I'm going to be completely honest here: this is language that I find very difficult to understand, and because of that the point of this post was mostly lost on me, despite the fact that I read through it twice.<BR/><BR/>I have taken classes in gender studies and African American studies at Yale, so I am familiar with the jargon of these fields. But there is so much jargon in this post that it is really, really difficult to get my head around. I am trying to be a Black Justice Blog reader, because I find the ideas really interesting, but I'm finding it beyond hard. It's really inaccessible to people who aren't comfortable using academic jargon to discuss these issues.<BR/><BR/>I think that the best gender and racial justice blogs are those that are accessible to everyone, not just people holding PhDs, or whatever it takes to get to the core ideas in some very jargon-filled, stylized writing. Otherwise I just don't think you're reaching far outside your own circle of writers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8121143914762345890.post-69696449544025953782007-04-16T19:25:00.000-05:002007-04-16T19:25:00.000-05:00evoking our audre, eh, e st v?"your silence will n...evoking our audre, eh, e st v?<BR/><BR/>"your silence will not protect you."<BR/>- audre lordeNaimahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15991412126150850379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8121143914762345890.post-20356476158084685782007-04-15T21:49:00.000-05:002007-04-15T21:49:00.000-05:00"i won’t choose to be more upset as a woman or a b..."i won’t choose to be more upset as a woman or a black person in these comments. i’ll thunder that i’m made to choose, as though sexism and racism weren't cut from the same cloth. so snoop can talk from his soul as much as he wants and don imus can reveal his true colors, but neither’s masculinity or blackness is enough a shield to protect him."<BR/><BR/>Truth. Great post Elizabeth.Joshuahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17938875004056523434noreply@blogger.com